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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 00:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ive had a lot of personal experience with street people.  When I was young and naive I felt sorry for them.  Now that I know about them, I dont feel sorry any more.  

Its true that they depend on people&#039;s compassion, but they equally depend upon people&#039;s ignorance.  They want you to think that they are just victims of circumstance and that, but for the grace of God, you could be standing there with a cardboard sign too.  The truth, however, is much more complex. 

Yes, you might find the rare, pitiful exception to this, but overwhelmingly, these people are not &quot;down on their luck.&quot;  They choose this lifestyle. And for a lazy person with no desire to improve himself, its a pretty fun way to live.  They know where the shelters are, but shelters have too many rules. They dont want to confine themselves to a shelter where they can&#039;t drink, smoke, and have sex whenever and wherever they want. At the shelter they cant stumble in and out at all hours of the night, and they have to walk all the way to the restroom to urinate.  They are much too free spirited for that, and many will readily, even proudly, admit this when asked about it.

They much prefer to pitch a tent in the woods and have a grand party with their fellow &quot;homeless&quot; compatriots. I have been to many of these homeless camps. They are a little government unto themselves. When its warm they will sit in camp chairs, listen to the radio, read magazines, and drink beer.  When it gets cold, they sit around campfires or propane heaters and drink beer.  If its really cold they often wear insulated hunting clothing and, of course, drink beer.  

Many people reading this enjoy going camping and living like this a couple of weekends a year.  Vagrants emjoy it too.  They simply choose to live that way all the time, and they dont have to pack up and go back to work on Monday. They have no aspirations beyond the immediate pleasures found in alcohol, drugs, and the numerous prostitutes who regularly go from tent to tent plying their trade. (yes, that stinky man on the corner might get laid more than you do, and he spends a lot less money than you do in pursuit of the &quot;girl of his dreams&quot;)  

They can suport this lifestyle, including the simple luxuries because if they have a &quot;good&quot; corner, they can easily take in a couple of HUNDRED tax free dollars or more in a single day&#039;s time.  How do you get a &quot;good&quot; corner.  Just like in your job, you work your way up the &quot;corporate&quot; ladder.  The guy you see in the same place every day is there because he has been assigned that corner based on his position within the vagrant community.  There is a defined heirarchy among vagrants. The new guy gets the less productive corners.  The &quot;established&quot; bums get the more lucrative spots.  If someone causes problems, or worse, cause the police to have to visit the camp, they risk being either demoted or even banished from the community.  Its really quite organized.  

They sometimes travel from one town to another based on the season of the year, the level of tolerance they receive from the legitimate community, and how generous (ignorant) the local population is.  Last year I found a dead homeless guy who had a plane ticket in his pocket from a trip he took 3 days earlier.  No, Airline travel is not typical among homeless people, but I just thought you&#039;d find it interesting.

There are organizations that will help these people by requiring them to make a committment to enter programs.  They get treatment for any medical conditions they have classes and counselling for any other issues.  But while in these programs they cant drink and party like they used to.  For most, that is too much to pay to become respectable again.  If they have the will power make it through they are able to rejoin society and start making contributions.  These programs are more deserving of your money then the guy on the street.  

You dont help the situation by giving money to the guy with a cardboard sign. Giving money to &quot;homeless&quot; people is like trying to abate the stray cat problem by setting out bowls of tunafish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ive had a lot of personal experience with street people.  When I was young and naive I felt sorry for them.  Now that I know about them, I dont feel sorry any more.  </p>
<p>Its true that they depend on people&#8217;s compassion, but they equally depend upon people&#8217;s ignorance.  They want you to think that they are just victims of circumstance and that, but for the grace of God, you could be standing there with a cardboard sign too.  The truth, however, is much more complex. </p>
<p>Yes, you might find the rare, pitiful exception to this, but overwhelmingly, these people are not &#8220;down on their luck.&#8221;  They choose this lifestyle. And for a lazy person with no desire to improve himself, its a pretty fun way to live.  They know where the shelters are, but shelters have too many rules. They dont want to confine themselves to a shelter where they can&#8217;t drink, smoke, and have sex whenever and wherever they want. At the shelter they cant stumble in and out at all hours of the night, and they have to walk all the way to the restroom to urinate.  They are much too free spirited for that, and many will readily, even proudly, admit this when asked about it.</p>
<p>They much prefer to pitch a tent in the woods and have a grand party with their fellow &#8220;homeless&#8221; compatriots. I have been to many of these homeless camps. They are a little government unto themselves. When its warm they will sit in camp chairs, listen to the radio, read magazines, and drink beer.  When it gets cold, they sit around campfires or propane heaters and drink beer.  If its really cold they often wear insulated hunting clothing and, of course, drink beer.  </p>
<p>Many people reading this enjoy going camping and living like this a couple of weekends a year.  Vagrants emjoy it too.  They simply choose to live that way all the time, and they dont have to pack up and go back to work on Monday. They have no aspirations beyond the immediate pleasures found in alcohol, drugs, and the numerous prostitutes who regularly go from tent to tent plying their trade. (yes, that stinky man on the corner might get laid more than you do, and he spends a lot less money than you do in pursuit of the &#8220;girl of his dreams&#8221;)  </p>
<p>They can suport this lifestyle, including the simple luxuries because if they have a &#8220;good&#8221; corner, they can easily take in a couple of HUNDRED tax free dollars or more in a single day&#8217;s time.  How do you get a &#8220;good&#8221; corner.  Just like in your job, you work your way up the &#8220;corporate&#8221; ladder.  The guy you see in the same place every day is there because he has been assigned that corner based on his position within the vagrant community.  There is a defined heirarchy among vagrants. The new guy gets the less productive corners.  The &#8220;established&#8221; bums get the more lucrative spots.  If someone causes problems, or worse, cause the police to have to visit the camp, they risk being either demoted or even banished from the community.  Its really quite organized.  </p>
<p>They sometimes travel from one town to another based on the season of the year, the level of tolerance they receive from the legitimate community, and how generous (ignorant) the local population is.  Last year I found a dead homeless guy who had a plane ticket in his pocket from a trip he took 3 days earlier.  No, Airline travel is not typical among homeless people, but I just thought you&#8217;d find it interesting.</p>
<p>There are organizations that will help these people by requiring them to make a committment to enter programs.  They get treatment for any medical conditions they have classes and counselling for any other issues.  But while in these programs they cant drink and party like they used to.  For most, that is too much to pay to become respectable again.  If they have the will power make it through they are able to rejoin society and start making contributions.  These programs are more deserving of your money then the guy on the street.  </p>
<p>You dont help the situation by giving money to the guy with a cardboard sign. Giving money to &#8220;homeless&#8221; people is like trying to abate the stray cat problem by setting out bowls of tunafish.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Me</title>
		<link>http://www.howtogetridofstuff.com/people/how-to-get-rid-of-a-panhandler/comment-page-1/#comment-54610</link>
		<dc:creator>Just Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 03:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One summer a homeless man invaded a fishing spot in my small town.  He was nice but had a bit of a drinking problem.  My husband also being an alki, I felt some compassion for the disease and we would bring extra food with us fishing so we could share with him.  Any fish that would have been to small for both of us to eat, would be cleaned and given to him to help out.  One night it was flooding at the fishing spot and we decided since had nowhere to go we were gonna let him sleep in our tent.  Once the storms passed (4 days) he brought the tent back nice and clean.  After that everytime we had the slightest sprinkle he wanted to use our tent.  We eventually had to stop fishing there.  I see him around once in a while and he waves, still with a smile on his face, but it had gotten to feel like why get a job, this young couple will take care of me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One summer a homeless man invaded a fishing spot in my small town.  He was nice but had a bit of a drinking problem.  My husband also being an alki, I felt some compassion for the disease and we would bring extra food with us fishing so we could share with him.  Any fish that would have been to small for both of us to eat, would be cleaned and given to him to help out.  One night it was flooding at the fishing spot and we decided since had nowhere to go we were gonna let him sleep in our tent.  Once the storms passed (4 days) he brought the tent back nice and clean.  After that everytime we had the slightest sprinkle he wanted to use our tent.  We eventually had to stop fishing there.  I see him around once in a while and he waves, still with a smile on his face, but it had gotten to feel like why get a job, this young couple will take care of me.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Hammock</title>
		<link>http://www.howtogetridofstuff.com/people/how-to-get-rid-of-a-panhandler/comment-page-1/#comment-50744</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet Hammock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 23:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A man has started coming to my garage door and ringing the doorbell. He asked me for some work and said he didn&#039;t want to ask for money. I told him that my husband does the yardwork. He would not leave, so I gave him some money out of desperation. All I had was a $20. He came back again. At first I would not answer the doorbell, but he kept ringing it. When I answered the door, he asked for some money. I told him I did not have any cash money and closed the door. Then he rang the doorbell again. When I answered, he said he would take a check. I told him that I could not help him this time. Two days later, he came back again, and I told my husband to answer the door. How do I get him to leave? It&#039;s bad enough that he is asking for money, but it is scary to know that he is coming up to my house and my door, instead of at a parking lot or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A man has started coming to my garage door and ringing the doorbell. He asked me for some work and said he didn&#8217;t want to ask for money. I told him that my husband does the yardwork. He would not leave, so I gave him some money out of desperation. All I had was a $20. He came back again. At first I would not answer the doorbell, but he kept ringing it. When I answered the door, he asked for some money. I told him I did not have any cash money and closed the door. Then he rang the doorbell again. When I answered, he said he would take a check. I told him that I could not help him this time. Two days later, he came back again, and I told my husband to answer the door. How do I get him to leave? It&#8217;s bad enough that he is asking for money, but it is scary to know that he is coming up to my house and my door, instead of at a parking lot or something.</p>
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		<title>By: rp</title>
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		<dc:creator>rp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure where you live, but in my community vagrants are a huge problem.  I live near the beach and they seem to flock in groves to the beautiful ocean and all the tourists who give them money.  Most of these people are alcoholics perfectly capable of holding a job or asking for public assistance, the legal way.  I watch these vagrant and their community, there are plenty of halfway houses, shelters, etc., but these choose this life.  I would really like to differentiate from homeless, mentally ill, etc. from a vagrant.  Vagrants are a nuisance and it is really sad when the law protects them from devaluing your protery, making you feel unsafe, making your sidewalks (whom you walk down with your child and dog) filthy with feces and urine, and being nothing but an eyesore to the community.  My two cents!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure where you live, but in my community vagrants are a huge problem.  I live near the beach and they seem to flock in groves to the beautiful ocean and all the tourists who give them money.  Most of these people are alcoholics perfectly capable of holding a job or asking for public assistance, the legal way.  I watch these vagrant and their community, there are plenty of halfway houses, shelters, etc., but these choose this life.  I would really like to differentiate from homeless, mentally ill, etc. from a vagrant.  Vagrants are a nuisance and it is really sad when the law protects them from devaluing your protery, making you feel unsafe, making your sidewalks (whom you walk down with your child and dog) filthy with feces and urine, and being nothing but an eyesore to the community.  My two cents!</p>
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		<title>By: Juan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>although i agree with some of the comments in this article(meaning only the part about a woman with children) i suggest that no one ever give to a man who is perfectly capable of making his own living, if he can sit in the hot sun of summer and the cold bitter wind of winter holding a sign he can sure find a job where he can do little more than that to make an honest living like the rest of the capable people in the world, these people get tax free money from good hearted people who work their behinds off to make a living and take advantage of every person who gives them so much as a quarter. if you good people totally quit giving, they should ,in theory, completely quit asking unless they absolutely need it and are not just there taking advantage of good tax payers like you and I</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>although i agree with some of the comments in this article(meaning only the part about a woman with children) i suggest that no one ever give to a man who is perfectly capable of making his own living, if he can sit in the hot sun of summer and the cold bitter wind of winter holding a sign he can sure find a job where he can do little more than that to make an honest living like the rest of the capable people in the world, these people get tax free money from good hearted people who work their behinds off to make a living and take advantage of every person who gives them so much as a quarter. if you good people totally quit giving, they should ,in theory, completely quit asking unless they absolutely need it and are not just there taking advantage of good tax payers like you and I</p>
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